PHOTO of Joe

Recorded at KenCrest Services April 2015.

About Joe

Joe has worked at KenCrest for 29 years.

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Joe from KenCrest Services
Joe with arms raised like a champion.
Joe waving, with a smile.
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LIVES LIVED APART Interview with Joe Recorded April 22, 2015

PHOTO of Joe with his interviewer Kathy

KATHY'S COMMENTS:  "I am still thinking about the freedom that those without disabilities take for granted - the ability to travel freely, to handle our everyday affairs, to feel valued in our careers, to feel competent and in control, to not be judged, to feel safe. I believe that every person should be given a chance to reach their full potential and to be treated with dignity and respect.
After the interview, I learned that Joe had lived in Pennhurst. I see that Pennhurst is a "haunted asylum" attraction for Halloween and I hope that people see it as a place that we never want to return to, not a place that creates fear of the "mentally insane." The manner in which we treat those who need our help speaks volumes about the values of our society. Empathy, love, patience."

Joe: Yeah.Joe: You got me.

Kathy: We love to have you.

Joe: You're on Candid Camera.

Kathy: OK. OK, today is April 22nd and we are here at KenCrest with Joe and I'm Kathy Pentek and I'm the interviewer. We have Celia.

Joe: That's JJ.

Kathy: And that's JJ. He's our photographer. We'll see him later. He'll be taking some photos of everybody. He wants to make sure he gets everybody.

Joe: Yeah.

Kathy: Yes, yeah. Make sure before everybody runs away.

Joe: You don't want that to happen, do you?

Kathy: No, I don't think that will happen.

Joe: Of course you know... we're here to talk about...

Kathy: Yes.

Joe: Where you work and how you like where you live and stuff like that.

Kathy: Right.

Joe: Ask about Joe.

Kathy: Right. I'd like to know about you and how long...

Joe: Once you get to know me then you know my outside job.

Kathy: Your job?

Joe: Outside job.

Staff: Outside job.

Kathy: Oh, OK. Would you like an outside job?

Joe: Yeah I've been here too many years. I need...

Kathy: Uh-huh.

Joe: Another job.

Kathy: OK. Alright, can you tell me how long you've been here first of all?

Joe: I've been here about 20 years.

Kathy: Wow, that's a long time. Yeah. Do you remember when you first came?

Joe: I was young.

Kathy: Were you? You're still young.

Joe: Yeah but I'm getting up there now.

Kathy: Oh, OK. So do you remember when you first came what it was like for you?

Joe: I was helping. Or (Always something)

Kathy: Yeah.

Joe: Tell you the truth people believe you. You don't tell the truth people think you make up stories and stuff like that.

Kathy: Oh, mm-hm. This is true. This is true. It takes some time and people will find that out.

Joe: So you know get your feelings out and you talk to people. They won't bother you.

Kathy: Yes.

Joe: And sometimes they call me Cowboy Joe.

Photos by JJ Tiziou

A Fierce Kind of Love has been supported by The Pew Center for Arts & Heritage.

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